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2020-08-08 21:03:20 --> dustvoice (~dustvoice@89-201-247-206.dsl.optinet.hr) has joined #archlinux
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2020-08-08 21:03:20 -- Topic for #archlinux is "Welcome to Arch Linux, Good Luck: https://archlinux.org | Rules: https://goo.gl/XWFreH | Pastebins: see !paste | status.archlinux.org | Installing? New `base` package; read the install guide carefully"
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2020-08-08 21:03:20 -- Topic set by phrik (~phrik@archlinux/bot/phrik) on Fri, 24 Jul 2020 22:12:54
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2020-08-08 21:03:20 -- Channel #archlinux: 1720 nicks (1 op, 0 voices, 1719 normals)
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2020-08-08 21:03:21 -- Channel created on Sun, 15 Feb 2004 06:08:31
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2020-08-08 21:05:38 santost12 the second display is still showing the "corruption". i installed QXL driver and everything else except the for the AMD GPU. im about to do that. windows says no other monitors were detected.
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2020-08-08 21:06:39 dustvoice Is there an IRC chat where I could recieve some support regarding zfs? Because the AUR package `zfs-utils` doesn't compile for me, but I suppose this isn't the right channel to ask, cause ZFS isn't officially supported
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2020-08-08 21:07:05 CompanionCube there's #zfsonlinux
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2020-08-08 21:07:21 NetSysFire you can also ask alis
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2020-08-08 21:07:37 sheep did you check the comments on its AUR page?
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2020-08-08 21:09:53 dustvoice sheep: Yes, but I didn't find a solution unfortunately
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2020-08-08 21:10:29 sheep how much RAM do you have?
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2020-08-08 21:10:32 dustvoice I think I'll try to hit them people up in #zfsonlinux, cause the upstream git repo doesn't compile as well
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2020-08-08 21:10:56 dustvoice sheep: 64G should be enough ':)
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2020-08-08 21:10:58 sheep if gcc is segfaulting then either it ran out of memory or there's some really obscure compiler bug happening
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2020-08-08 21:11:35 MacGyver dustvoice: If you're actually on arch, zfs isn't *that* out there that nobody here would be willing to help you just because it's an AUR package.
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2020-08-08 21:11:41 dustvoice hmm ok. compiler bug could be the issue, or gcc does weird stuff with the RAM... Will try another run and monitor mem usage...
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2020-08-08 21:12:07 MacGyver I applaud the effort to search for a "more appropriate" channel but I think the risk of being shouted at in this case is rather small.
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2020-08-08 21:13:40 dustvoice MacGyver: Yes I'm on arch. I know I could probably get some support here, but I'm always asking if there is a more appropriate channel first. I'll try some runs, maybe even do a memtest. I've got no hurry regarding this. Nilfs2 is nice, but I would love to run ZFS really.
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2020-08-08 21:14:52 NetSysFire do you have some debug information?
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2020-08-08 21:16:34 santost12 MacGyver: this is what i was talking about earlier: https://postimg.cc/Q9KmNskT
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2020-08-08 21:16:36 phrik Title: 1 — Postimage.org (at postimg.cc)
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2020-08-08 21:19:35 Strykar dustvoice: post the error you get while compiling the aur package
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2020-08-08 21:20:04 -- SpinTronix_ is now known as SpinTronix
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2020-08-08 21:20:40 MacGyver santost12: Hmright. Hunting this is difficult. Apparently there's also a potential problem if you *do* have virtual GPUs enabled and boot with the AMD GPU passed through & enabled; so you could try rebooting, disabling the QXL GPU, then starting the VM.
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2020-08-08 21:21:18 dustvoice Another weird issue I'm encountering on the Lenovo Yoga Laptop of my mother, I also tried this on is that sometimes the screen just starts to flicker. It's an Intel integrated graphics card. I first thought it was some issue with her Manjaro install and/or my portable Arch install, but as I tried to look at some journals and therefore booted into the archiso, the problem still occured. On my
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2020-08-08 21:21:18 dustvoice portable arch install (just an arch install on a USB) it only occurs, after I enter my password for LUKS. It also happens more often during normal usage, after the display gets woken from sleep. I can reproduce it 70% of the time by forcing the standby with `xset dpms force standby`. The flicker starts slowly and then increases in frequency. In approx. 3s one can't see sh*t. I've also tried with
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2020-08-08 21:21:18 dustvoice `nomodeset` etc. without success. Several reboots resolve the error temporarily. Sorry for opening up 2 issues at the same time, but I gotta admit those 2 problems are slowly but steadily driving me insane. And sorry for the wall of text. I can offer cookies for compensation
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2020-08-08 21:21:19 MacGyver santost12: You're beyond my expertise in issues with AMD GPUs though so at this point I'm merely interpreting any results from https://www.reddit.com/r/VFIO/search?q=AMD%20code%2043&restrict_sr=1
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2020-08-08 21:21:21 phrik Title: reddit.com: search results - AMD code 43 (at www.reddit.com)
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2020-08-08 21:21:50 dustvoice Strykar: It was indeed a segfault
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2020-08-08 21:22:09 dustvoice Weird thing is, I just brute-force tried it like 6 times and magically it somehow worked
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2020-08-08 21:22:28 dustvoice I have no idea. Maybe it's indeed a mem issue. Will run a memtest tonight just for good measure
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2020-08-08 21:22:46 MacGyver santost12: Oh, also, you should make sure you're passing through *all* the devices in that card's IOMMU-group.
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2020-08-08 21:22:53 MacGyver santost12: Including the audio device on the GPU.
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2020-08-08 21:23:32 dustvoice Well I'm gonna try to build the zfs-dkms package now. If I'm understanding stuff correctly, I therefore won't need zfs-linux right? I can use a normal linux kernel and use zfs-dkms with it right?
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2020-08-08 21:23:42 dustvoice Or would it be recommended to use the zfs-linux kernel
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2020-08-08 21:23:51 Tom^ dustvoice: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/intel_graphics#Screen_flickering
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2020-08-08 21:23:52 phrik Title: Intel graphics - ArchWiki (at wiki.archlinux.org)
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2020-08-08 21:24:00 MacGyver Either should work if you're on [core]/linux.
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2020-08-08 21:24:04 Tom^ dustvoice: i915.enable_psr=0
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2020-08-08 21:24:13 MacGyver dkms will build fine for the official kernels.
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2020-08-08 21:24:29 dustvoice MacGyver: So also for linux-zen?
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2020-08-08 21:24:33 MacGyver The prebuilt packages are usually only there as an additional convenience.
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2020-08-08 21:24:38 MacGyver No, not for linux-zen.
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2020-08-08 21:24:43 MacGyver That's a different kernel.
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2020-08-08 21:24:52 dustvoice Tom^: Thanks will look into it, but I'm pretty sure I tried the i915 option.
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2020-08-08 21:24:55 MacGyver So only dkms would work there.
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2020-08-08 21:25:04 MacGyver Unless somebody provides zfs-linux-zen.
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2020-08-08 21:25:09 ryzokuken I'd been wondering what people have been using for quickly accessible dictionaries akin to some other OSes.
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2020-08-08 21:25:19 ryzokuken dmenu with a script that hooks up to a dict?
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2020-08-08 21:25:49 ryzokuken and from *a* dict, I mean dict(1) lol
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2020-08-08 21:25:56 dustvoice MacGyver: Oh ok. So just there's no misunderstanding, the dkms version also won't work with linux-zen? Not that I require the zen kernel. I can also run the stock linux kernel
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2020-08-08 21:27:24 MacGyver The dkms-version will work for any kernel for which you have the headers.
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2020-08-08 21:27:35 MacGyver The prebuilt version for linux will not work for linux-zen.
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2020-08-08 21:27:53 santost12 MacGyver: still nothing but thank you for the suggestions and help. i tried disabling QXL and then i removed it. i used RDP and same error
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2020-08-08 21:27:54 dustvoice MacGyver: Thanks for the info. I assumed this, but having some confirmation is always helpful
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2020-08-08 21:28:15 santost12 im going to buy another hard drive for windows.
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2020-08-08 21:29:42 dustvoice Tom^: After reading your provided wiki article, I'm not so sure, I tried, but possibly *wanted* to try the kernel parameter. Will try it out after grabbing some food. Thanks to you guys anyways. Helpful as always.
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2020-08-08 21:44:42 mattfly hmm when is libreoffice 7 arriving on arch? where do you look for this?
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2020-08-08 21:45:27 mattfly or have it...
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2020-08-08 21:45:29 sheep mattfly: you'll see it in pacman when it's available. Otherwise there's no public tracking
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2020-08-08 21:45:36 mattfly oh ok
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2020-08-08 21:45:37 sheep besides the svn/git repos
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2020-08-08 21:46:07 sheep given how large libreoffice is and how many dependencies it has, it will probably take a few days
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2020-08-08 21:46:46 sheep if you want immediate notifications about the source package being updated, you could subscribe to the arch-commits mailing list
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2020-08-08 21:47:08 heftig post-factum: yes, once I get back to my desk (all my access keys are on a yubikey)
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2020-08-08 21:47:42 post-factum heftig: ok. i've already created a bug-request for that and updated another bug
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2020-08-08 21:48:30 heftig post-factum: yes, thanks. they're already on my to-do list
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2020-08-08 22:01:59 drathir_tor not sure, but from curiosity isnt community/perl-test-simple should replace the perl-test-tester in dependencies bc of conflicting files ?
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2020-08-08 22:05:10 drathir_tor or its like replaces not apply to packages no longer included/existing in repositories... ?
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2020-08-08 22:05:29 jonathon mattfly: I can point you to some packages if you want; I build it a couple of days ago for myself.
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2020-08-08 22:05:49 sheep drathir_tor: I'm not sure what you're asking or what you mean by "bc of conflicting files". can you show us the full output of pacman?
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2020-08-08 22:06:16 drathir_tor sheep: k one sec...
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2020-08-08 22:10:28 drathir_tor sheep: there You go https://gist.github.com/b7cc117147c46b2982586a0cf4a45506
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2020-08-08 22:10:30 phrik Title: conflicting__perl-test-simple_with_perl-test-tester · GitHub (at gist.github.com)
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2020-08-08 22:11:49 sheep drathir_tor: the perl-test-tester package doesn't exist in the repos anymore. I think perl-test-simple should replace it
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2020-08-08 22:12:41 bentglasstube so I reinstalled arch entirely and I'm still having performance issues in x
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2020-08-08 22:13:06 drathir_tor bentglasstube: dmesg spamming any errors ?
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2020-08-08 22:13:27 bentglasstube no, nothing interesting in there that I see
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2020-08-08 22:13:42 bentglasstube nothing interesting in xorg log either
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2020-08-08 22:13:46 Phrenic What's the irc command for font help?
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2020-08-08 22:14:11 sheep Phrenic: there isn't one
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2020-08-08 22:14:58 NetSysFire bentglasstube: what performance issues?
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2020-08-08 22:15:16 drathir_tor bentglasstube: from curiosity does glxgears affected as well ?
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2020-08-08 22:15:25 Namarrgon Phrenic: plain english works best; explain your issue
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2020-08-08 22:15:42 bentglasstube mouse movement is super choppy mostly
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2020-08-08 22:16:10 NetSysFire what gpu?
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2020-08-08 22:16:15 Namarrgon bentglasstube: did you try with nouveau instead of the blob?
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2020-08-08 22:16:17 bentglasstube seems to be since I updated things a couple days ago, so I assume gpu drivers
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2020-08-08 22:16:36 bentglasstube I was going to try nouveau next, but it doesn't support much on my gpu
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2020-08-08 22:16:39 mr_sm1th I'm trying to update with pacman, but I'm getting "error: sublime-text: key "F57D4F59BD3DF454" is unknown"
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2020-08-08 22:16:52 Namarrgon mr_sm1th: which repo do you get that package from?
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2020-08-08 22:16:53 mr_sm1th rm -rf /etc/pacman.d/gnupg doesn't work
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2020-08-08 22:16:54 bentglasstube 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation TU104 [GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER] (rev a1)
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2020-08-08 22:17:07 Phrenic I'm just missing some characters. Just looking for some font packages that provide good coverage for more obscure icons and characters.
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2020-08-08 22:17:13 mr_sm1th Namarrgon, I'm not installing sublime-text, it's long gone from my system, but it seems to have left some files that break pacman
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2020-08-08 22:17:29 Namarrgon mr_sm1th: post the full pacman -Syu --debug output
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2020-08-08 22:17:44 bentglasstube glxgears looks choppy too, but stdout reports 60fps
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2020-08-08 22:18:04 drathir_tor mr_sm1th: that most likely not help You wipe all keys maybe instead go try reinstal archlinux-keyring...
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2020-08-08 22:18:13 mr_sm1th I did that
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2020-08-08 22:18:20 mr_sm1th !paste
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2020-08-08 22:18:21 phrik Paste short snippets (up to 3 lines) in channel. Please do NOT use pastebin.com or paste.ubuntu.com -- some good, sane paste services are http://ix.io, https://paste.rs, https://bpaste.net and https://gist.github.com. See !ix or !rs for an easy way to paste from a pipe.
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2020-08-08 22:18:31 Namarrgon !pastepacman
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2020-08-08 22:18:32 phrik LC_ALL=C pacman --debug <your pacman options> |& tee >(curl -F 'f:1=<-' ix.io)
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2020-08-08 22:18:51 mr_sm1th this seems to be the relevant part https://bpa.st/4DOQ
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2020-08-08 22:18:51 phrik Title: View paste 4DOQ (at bpa.st)
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2020-08-08 22:19:25 sheep is there a sublime-text repo in your pacman.conf?
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2020-08-08 22:19:51 Namarrgon post the full output
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2020-08-08 22:19:55 mr_sm1th Ok yeah that was it
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2020-08-08 22:19:58 mr_sm1th Thank you
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2020-08-08 22:20:11 mr_sm1th Namarrgon, there was 500+ lines of new repos being added ':)
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2020-08-08 22:20:30 Namarrgon why do you have so many mirrors in your mirrorlist?
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2020-08-08 22:20:54 drathir_tor O,O'
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2020-08-08 22:21:29 mr_sm1th Ehm
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2020-08-08 22:21:36 mr_sm1th I have one for every country it seems
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2020-08-08 22:21:47 mr_sm1th Generated on 2019-02-01
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2020-08-08 22:22:22 mr_sm1th Anyway, thank you :)
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2020-08-08 22:25:16 j0hannes I shutdown my laptop before a flight and restarted it afterwards; now the Network Connections status bar entry in KDE is gone and in the system configuration I don't find any of the previously existing connections (VPN etc.) anymore
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2020-08-08 22:26:37 NetSysFire did you updated anything? check pacman.log
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2020-08-08 22:26:53 NetSysFire also check that you didnt push a hw button, like the airplane mode one if you have something like this
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2020-08-08 22:33:19 j0hannes NetSysFire: there is an Fn key combination to toggle wifi, but it never worked under Arch
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2020-08-08 22:34:03 NetSysFire what is your specific device?
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2020-08-08 22:34:09 NetSysFire check rfkill just in case
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2020-08-08 22:37:43 _Warl0ck does anyone know how to do a subshell with fish? like: (command)
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2020-08-08 22:38:16 _Warl0ck wal requires "(cat ~/.cache/wal/sequences &)" to be in your shell config, but fish doesn't support that syntax and I can't find an equivalent
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2020-08-08 22:38:58 dreisner yo dawg, i heard you like subshells.
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2020-08-08 22:39:29 _Warl0ck you heard right
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2020-08-08 22:39:36 dreisner can't see why you need the explicit ( ) subshell if you're backgrounding the thing...
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2020-08-08 22:39:59 dreisner then again, i've no idea what "wal" is.
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2020-08-08 22:40:08 NetSysFire there is also a fish channel
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2020-08-08 22:40:10 _Warl0ck yeah the thing is removing the parens causes other isssues, it seems to spew character codes into the active shell session
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2020-08-08 22:40:14 NetSysFire the official one is not on freenode though
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2020-08-08 22:40:16 _Warl0ck I asked there, it's kinda dead
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2020-08-08 22:40:24 bentglasstube nouveau drivers don't have the performance issues
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2020-08-08 22:40:29 bentglasstube so I guess I'm sticking with them
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2020-08-08 22:40:32 bentglasstube thanks for the suggestion
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2020-08-08 22:40:46 dreisner ...but adding the subshell doesn't change that.
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2020-08-08 22:40:51 dreisner FD inheritance is a thing.
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2020-08-08 22:41:02 _Warl0ck dreisner: wal just applies a system wide colorscheme, and that line echoes the color chars
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2020-08-08 22:41:19 dreisner and why does this have to be fish?
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2020-08-08 22:41:32 dreisner isn't wal the one executing this?
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2020-08-08 22:41:47 _Warl0ck because that's my every day shell, and fish needs to source the colors so each shell I open is themed
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2020-08-08 22:41:56 _Warl0ck wal just creates the colorscheme itself
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2020-08-08 22:42:16 _Warl0ck dreisner: removing the perens is directly responsible for this issue: https://github.com/liuchengxu/vista.vim/issues/297
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2020-08-08 22:42:17 bentglasstube nouveau seems to have some different problems not understanding left and right displays though
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2020-08-08 22:42:18 phrik Title: [vista.vim] Fail to decode from JSON: · Issue #297 · liuchengxu/vista.vim · GitHub (at github.com)
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2020-08-08 22:43:20 dreisner that makes even less sense
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2020-08-08 22:43:40 bentglasstube wow, this is really strange. I used xrandr to arrange my displays correctly, but now if I click on something on the left monitor, it clicks in that position on the right monitor (and vice versa)
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2020-08-08 22:43:56 _Warl0ck I never said it made sense dreisner, im confused as well
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2020-08-08 22:44:19 dreisner now we're talking about bad json? because of a missing subshell?
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2020-08-08 22:45:08 _Warl0ck dreisner: I believe it's because the cat command throws some characters into the terminal to change its color, which it does, but for some reason they are not handled correctly and it interferes with other stuff
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2020-08-08 22:45:17 Namarrgon bentglasstube: nouveau probably doesn't work too well on that gpu, brace for more bugs
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2020-08-08 22:45:19 tatsumaru hey guys, my computer uses a usb printer that's connected to my mom's pc and is shared and this works fine I can print as expected. however I just installed xsane in order to use the scan function as well and when I start xsane it says - no devices found. how can I help xsane also detect the shared printer?
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2020-08-08 22:45:21 dreisner yes, that's what cat does....
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2020-08-08 22:45:33 bentglasstube nouveau doesn't work, nvidia drivers don't work
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2020-08-08 22:45:34 dreisner adding a subshell doesn't magically change where the output goes.
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2020-08-08 22:45:36 bentglasstube what is this 1990
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2020-08-08 22:45:44 Namarrgon bentglasstube: this is nvidia
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2020-08-08 22:45:53 _Warl0ck dreisner: https://github.com/liuchengxu/vista.vim/issues/297
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2020-08-08 22:45:55 phrik Title: [vista.vim] Fail to decode from JSON: · Issue #297 · liuchengxu/vista.vim · GitHub (at github.com)
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2020-08-08 22:46:03 dreisner _Warl0ck: you already posted that
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2020-08-08 22:46:05 _Warl0ck it says it "hides shell job control messages"
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2020-08-08 22:46:11 bentglasstube I suppose I can just swap which ports the monitors are plugged into
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2020-08-08 22:46:25 _Warl0ck whoops meant to paste https://github.com/dylanaraps/pywal/wiki/Getting-Started#applying-the-theme-to-new-terminals
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2020-08-08 22:46:27 phrik Title: Getting Started · dylanaraps/pywal Wiki · GitHub (at github.com)
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2020-08-08 22:46:31 dreisner does fish emit job control message?
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2020-08-08 22:47:16 dreisner i'm not even sure why you need to background this.
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2020-08-08 22:47:20 dreisner it's not a continuous stream.
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2020-08-08 22:47:29 _Warl0ck Googling it returned no results. Knowing fish, they just call it something different
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2020-08-08 22:47:52 _Warl0ck I think it's backgrounded so the shell isn't blocked for a few ms every time it starts
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2020-08-08 22:48:01 dreisner a few ms!? how big is this file?
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2020-08-08 22:48:15 dreisner should file a bug against wal so that it only reads stdout, not stdout and stderr.
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2020-08-08 22:48:22 _Warl0ck I'm just going off the comment in that link: # Alternative (blocks terminal for 0-3ms)
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2020-08-08 22:48:25 _Warl0ck cat ~/.cache/wal/sequences
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2020-08-08 22:49:15 dreisner 0ms is pretty short. 3ms is too. i doubt you'd actually notice it.
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2020-08-08 22:50:19 _Warl0ck yeah, it is pretty short. Seems to remove the error for now
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2020-08-08 22:50:34 dreisner im responsible for a ip geolocation service which has a 5ms SLA at about 20M QPS. if we fail the SLA we start losing money (thousands of dollars) every seconds. surely 3ms is tolerable for you to open a shell.
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2020-08-08 22:50:45 _Warl0ck I would like to know how to do subshells in fish anyways. I use them ib my bash scripts all the time
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2020-08-08 22:51:10 Namarrgon they don't have a channel on freenode?
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2020-08-08 22:51:28 dreisner it's too fucked of a shell to offer such basic functionality: https://github.com/fish-shell/fish-shell/issues/1439
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2020-08-08 22:51:32 phrik Title: Provide subshell like functionality · Issue #1439 · fish-shell/fish-shell · GitHub (at github.com)
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2020-08-08 22:52:16 _Warl0ck It's great for an everyday use shell, manpage completions, git integration, etc, but for anything complex and portable I just use bash
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2020-08-08 22:52:21 tatsumaru any help with the xsane issue please?
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2020-08-08 22:58:44 _Warl0ck dreisner: scratch that, I am still getting the garbage json issue with the plain cat command. I think it just needs to be run in the background somehow
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2020-08-08 22:59:13 dustvoice tatsumaru: Never tried scanning with my printer unfortunately O.o
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2020-08-08 22:59:41 tatsumaru well it has a scanner in it
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2020-08-08 22:59:51 sheep tatsumaru: what do you get from "pacman -Q linux" and "uname -r"?
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2020-08-08 23:00:24 tatsumaru sheep, linux 5.7.12.arch1-1 and 5.7.12-arch1-1
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2020-08-08 23:00:29 dustvoice Sorry for sounding sarcastic. My printer has a scanner included too. I really didn't try scanning. I don't know how I navigated around that to be perfectly honest. So really O.o
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2020-08-08 23:00:43 sheep so it's not an issue with a kernel mismatch
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2020-08-08 23:01:01 tatsumaru my mom's pc also has arch with the latest updates and the printer/scanner works fine there with xsane
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2020-08-08 23:01:15 sheep are sane-airscan and ipp-usb installed?
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2020-08-08 23:02:03 tatsumaru sheep, no
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2020-08-08 23:03:46 tatsumaru maybe I need to share the scanner separately from the printer even though they are the same device?
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2020-08-08 23:03:56 sheep install sane-airscan and ipp-usb
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2020-08-08 23:04:07 tatsumaru sheep, installed them, now?
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2020-08-08 23:04:32 sheep systemctl daemon-reload; systemctl enable --now ipp-usb
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2020-08-08 23:06:12 tatsumaru sheep, https://dpaste.org/YG1e
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2020-08-08 23:06:14 phrik Title: dpaste/YG1e (Bash) (at dpaste.org)
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2020-08-08 23:06:24 sheep ignore that
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2020-08-08 23:06:43 sheep it might be a service that is activated on demand by dbus
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2020-08-08 23:06:48 sheep now try using xsane again
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2020-08-08 23:07:14 tatsumaru nope, still can't find the scanner
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2020-08-08 23:07:29 sheep does lsusb find the scanner?
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2020-08-08 23:08:00 tatsumaru well it's not connected to this PC so should it?
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2020-08-08 23:08:16 sheep you said it was a usb scanner, right?
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2020-08-08 23:08:28 sheep oh wait
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2020-08-08 23:08:30 tatsumaru yeah but it's connect to my mom's pc and my mom's pc is sharing the printer with my pc
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2020-08-08 23:08:38 sheep what protocol is that PC using to share the scanner?
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2020-08-08 23:08:44 tatsumaru ipp
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2020-08-08 23:09:15 sheep is saned sharing it?
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2020-08-08 23:09:45 tatsumaru not sure what you mean
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2020-08-08 23:09:53 tatsumaru I used cups to share it
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2020-08-08 23:10:24 sheep I think cups would only share the printer function
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2020-08-08 23:10:44 sheep try something like https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SANE#Sharing_your_scanner_over_a_network
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2020-08-08 23:10:45 phrik Title: SANE - ArchWiki (at wiki.archlinux.org)
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2020-08-08 23:18:40 tatsumaru sheep, this worked, thanks a lot ! :)
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2020-08-08 23:29:42 j0hannes NetSysFire: it's an Intel 8265/8275, rfkill doesn't report any blocking
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2020-08-08 23:31:29 dustvoice The mighty ArchWiki strikes again I see. Truly a holy pool of knowledge. Never ceases to impress
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2020-08-08 23:49:39 dreisner _Warl0ck: still makes no sense if you understand shells, *and* it contradicts the manual you linked.
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2020-08-08 23:50:20 dreisner _Warl0ck: the rational explanation at this point would either be: appear to be a syntax error or some (further) absurdity of fish.
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2020-08-08 23:50:41 bentglasstube does anyone know what packages are required to get ardour's general midi plugin to work?
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2020-08-08 23:51:28 bentglasstube I got it to work by installing all of pro-audio but that seems a bit heavy handed
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2020-08-08 23:52:23 dustvoice Gotta admit, this kind of stuff was why I dropped fish and switched to zsh.
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2020-08-08 23:52:40 NetSysFire i like using zsh but i use bash for all my scripts
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2020-08-08 23:53:23 danielrparks that's how I bet I would too. I've been using bash for way too long to not use its syntax
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2020-08-08 23:54:05 dustvoice I have no problem with a different syntax. But it would be nice if it was a complete and coherent syntax instead of random shit like this
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2020-08-08 23:54:47 danielrparks I actually missed it, but I can imagine, there's some pretty weird stuff in shell syntax
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2020-08-08 23:55:51 dustvoice I use bash for scripts, bc of compatibility and stuff too. But zsh with autocompletion and oh-my-zsh shenanigans is the closest I got to fish's autocompletion which I have to admit is very good.
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2020-08-09 00:01:40 mefistofeles dustvoice: I recommend dropping oh-my-zsh and using something like spaceship or starship
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2020-08-09 00:01:43 mefistofeles :P
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2020-08-09 00:01:46 mefistofeles you will never look back
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2020-08-09 00:02:06 danielrparks noted for when I eventually switch to zsh
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2020-08-09 00:03:26 NetSysFire i made my zshrc myself. 4/10 would not recommend. i still dont understand all the completion options
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2020-08-09 00:03:28 dustvoice mefistofeles: O.o so... you... tell me that my completely individually crafted and configured, finally working zsh is not worthy enough >.> Guess I'll check this Star Wars shit out. You surely are the devil
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2020-08-09 00:03:58 mefistofeles dustvoice: oh, maybe it is enough :)
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2020-08-09 00:04:17 mefistofeles but oh-my-zsh is known for being slow, but if you have fiddle with it enough it may be good already
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2020-08-09 00:10:43 dustvoice Well it's alright. This is the rabbit hole of arch. Optimizing and tweaking all the time. And when you FINALLY think you FINALLY have it... BOOM something new enters the room... I tweak my dotfiles all the time. Especially since I'm trying to vim-bind everything. Ironically I'm also in the search for another IRC Client while typing this in WeeChat. The gods have no mercy
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2020-08-09 00:11:36 NetSysFire customizing things is fine. you are optimizing your machine for yourself basically. i recommend to automate your dotfile deployment and similar tasks
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2020-08-09 00:14:29 dustvoice Well I've basically got a dotfiles repo with submodules that I can simply clone into my home and I'm ready to go. For everything else I've got a custom guide, which I'm knowing by heart by now. Automated dotfile deployment never kind of met all my expectations, so I'd rather do things manually
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2020-08-09 00:15:58 NetSysFire personally i hate settings things up manually. i dont trust my hands anymore, there will be typos. it will save me some time, especially because typos are frustrating and hard to debug
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2020-08-09 00:17:04 danielrparks I love setting things up, but I agree typos can be little demons that come to bite you later
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2020-08-09 00:17:33 dustvoice well, new install, git init, set remote with upstream and pull. And I'm off to a great start
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2020-08-09 00:17:50 dustvoice well not entirely... git submodule update --recursive --init helps too
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2020-08-09 00:18:24 dustvoice And a smartcard, to have my keys. Portable af ':]
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2020-08-09 00:20:03 zuntik hieelo.
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2020-08-09 00:20:07 NetSysFire !give zuntik welcome
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2020-08-09 00:20:07 zuntik *Hello
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2020-08-09 00:20:08 phrik zuntik: Welcome to #archlinux, tell us how you fucked up.
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2020-08-09 00:20:32 zuntik haha thanks phrik
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2020-08-09 00:20:34 NetSysFire i have a ton of custom stuff. selfmade conky widgets, hacky scripts and ugly configs. it would take me a long time to deploy them
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2020-08-09 00:20:38 NetSysFire !give zuntik bot
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2020-08-09 00:20:39 phrik zuntik: I'm a bot! ~does the binary solo~ 00001 000011 0000111
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2020-08-09 00:21:22 zuntik I have a question about fstab: I'm runnig archlinuxarm on my raspberrypi 4
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2020-08-09 00:21:31 NetSysFire !alarm
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2020-08-09 00:21:32 phrik If you're here because of an issue with your Raspberry Pi or other ARM device, join #archlinux-arm.
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2020-08-09 00:21:44 dustvoice I love that alarm xD
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2020-08-09 00:21:47 zuntik ah nothing wrong with the pi
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2020-08-09 00:21:58 Scimmia of course not
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2020-08-09 00:22:14 Scimmia Arch just doesn't run on it, it's x86_64 only
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2020-08-09 00:22:22 zuntik I just don't understand why the root partition is not listed in fstab
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2020-08-09 00:22:27 zuntik only the boot partition
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2020-08-09 00:22:35 zuntik that's all I want to know
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2020-08-09 00:22:48 zuntik fstab has only one entry
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2020-08-09 00:22:52 zuntik why is this?
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2020-08-09 00:23:00 dustvoice Well you could always make your own entry?
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2020-08-09 00:23:06 Scimmia ask your distro, since they're the ones that set it up
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2020-08-09 00:23:16 danielrparks you're probably using the root= command-line argument to tell the kernel where the root filesystem is, so you don't need it in fstab?
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2020-08-09 00:23:40 NetSysFire !notarch
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2020-08-09 00:23:41 phrik This channel is for Arch Linux support only. Also see https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Code_of_conduct#Arch_Linux_distribution_support_.2Aonly.2A
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2020-08-09 00:23:43 dustvoice It's not that we don't wonna help, it's just that with custom distros, in this case archlinux-arm do custom stuff
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2020-08-09 00:24:11 dustvoice So we don't know what special quirks archlinux-arm might have cause we run x86_64
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2020-08-09 00:25:04 zuntik yes yes. I understand. I asked here because I expected the question to be general. I think the reply I got here is satisfactory: the bootloader booted it
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2020-08-09 00:25:14 zuntik I just want to make sure that if I add my own entry there
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2020-08-09 00:25:21 zuntik it will mount
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2020-08-09 00:25:35 zuntik I'll ask the other channel then. thank you!
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2020-08-09 00:26:13 dustvoice Yes. If you really need it, making an fstab entry is pretty easy
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2020-08-09 00:27:11 dustvoice You will have to do it many more times probably while running arch 'xO
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2020-08-09 00:27:26 zuntik dustvoice: I want to boot 2 partitions that are on a huge external hard drive: one that is exfat and the other will be btrfs (necessary packages are installed)
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2020-08-09 00:27:43 zuntik auto mount I should say
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2020-08-09 00:28:27 zuntik thank you all!
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2020-08-09 00:32:17 j0hannes I still can't find any reason why my wifi isnt't working anymore; journalctl says rfkill1: found Wi-Fi radio killswitch, what does that mean?
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2020-08-09 00:33:13 binTrl I'm getting "Cannot create atjob file /var/spool/atd/a0000601961f3a: Permission denied" while running at, /var/spool : http://ix.io/2tC8 any idea what's wrong ?
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2020-08-09 00:33:41 NetSysFire j0hannes: do you have a hw switch which toggles your wifi? also rfkill list
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2020-08-09 00:33:52 dustvoice j0hannes: The message you posted shouldn't be the most unusual.
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2020-08-09 00:34:44 NetSysFire they asked the question a few hours ago, i told them to do the rfkill stuff and to search for any relevant buttons that may do things
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2020-08-09 00:35:06 NetSysFire what device is this?
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2020-08-09 20:35:21 -- Topic for #archlinux is "Welcome to Arch Linux, Good Luck: https://archlinux.org | Rules: https://goo.gl/XWFreH | Pastebins: see !paste | status.archlinux.org | Installing? New `base` package; read the install guide carefully"
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2020-08-09 20:35:21 -- Topic set by phrik (~phrik@archlinux/bot/phrik) on Fri, 24 Jul 2020 22:12:54
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2020-08-09 20:35:21 -- Channel #archlinux: 1725 nicks (2 ops, 0 voices, 1723 normals)
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2020-08-09 20:35:24 -- Channel created on Sun, 15 Feb 2004 06:08:31
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